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China’s Shot Across our Bow

June 25th, 2009

This is all over the internet this morning. This is very scary stuff in my thinking, but what do I know. This is not from the Chinese government but the head of the economic research division of the Communist party.

It’s the second time the Chinese have insinuated they are not going to buy more of our debt. Our government’s fiscal policies are making them very nervous. If they stop buying our treasuries, it’s game over.

Our debt is increasing daily and selling the treasuries is the way the government pays for all the spending they are doing. The Fed is already buying a portion of the treasuries because there are not enough buyers apparently. Not sure how that works. It’s sort of like me writing myself a check.

China is our largest creditor, they are the “largest single holder of US Treasuries, with $763.5 billion at the end of April, according to US Treasury data.”

In looking around at the posting of this article, I noticed that the US print versions leave out the comments the economist gives for his thinking. Mainly the quote listed below the link.

LINK: Chinese Economist Urges Beijing to Buy More Gold

“Should we buy gold or US Treasuries?” Li asked. “The US is printing dollars on a massive scale, and in view of that trend, according to the laws of economics, there is no doubt that the dollar will fall. So gold should be a better choice.”

There is no suggestion that Li, even though he is a senior researcher, was enunciating an agreed party line.

However, a debate is swirling in China about how the country can reduce its exposure to the dollar and to US assets in case America’s ultra-loose fiscal and monetary policy rekindles inflation and erodes the value of the dollar and US Treasuries.

This is a MarketWatch version of the article with hundreds of comments:

LINK: MarketWatch

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Foreclosures Up, Home Sales Up, Prices Down

June 25th, 2009

From Pinal County:

Home sales up, but prices down
More foreclosures expected to flood Pinal market

LINK: Home sales up, but prices down

Recent reports show that in Casa Grande and western Pinal County, as in much of the state and nation, home sales are rising, but prices continue to fall. The number of foreclosed properties on the market now, and expected on the market soon, seems to be the driving force.

“We’ve been told [by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac] that there are thousands and thousands of foreclosures in the pipeline,” said Darrah Dremler, an agent with Coldwell Banker Excel Realty who specializes in foreclosure sales. “Banks are starting to price things a lot lower to clean out their inventory before this big rush hits.”

From the Las Vegas Review Journal:

Home sales up, prices down
Inventory on the market reflects drop of 9.3 percent from May 2008

LINK: Home sales up, prices down

Counting 737 condo and townhouse units sold in May, Las Vegas had nearly 4,000 total sales, one of the best months on record, said Sue Naumann, president of the Realtors association.

“So there’s plenty of activity in our local housing market,” she said. “We’re down in inventory so we’re starting to move things out of the market and I’m sure a great deal of it is REOs (real estate-owned).”

Any further price deterioration will be caused by foreclosure properties, which account for about 80 percent of Las Vegas home sales, Naumann said.

“We had a bank moratorium that expired June 1, but I still don’t think they’re going to flood the market,” she said. “It would be devastating if they did.”

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Foreclosures

June 15th, 2009

This article addresses the shadow inventory supposedly being held back by lenders. I’ve seen several articles on this subject but this one has quotes specific to Arizona.

LINK: Yahoo - Arizona Foreclosures

Arizona is now in the news and not in a good way. The latest figures from RealtyTrac.com show that during the first quarter Arizona had the second highest rate of foreclosure actions in the nation, trailing only Nevada. One out of every 54 Arizona homeowners received a foreclosure notice during the first three months of the year………

Gloria Handley, a real estate agent in Chandler with RE/MAX Achievers, says that across the state there have been roughly 20,000 home sales so far this year. Of that number, she estimates that 75 percent were lender owned or short sales…….

What the numbers from Arizona and elsewhere generally don’t say is that while bank-owned properties make up a growing percentage of the homes available for sale, banks are actually keeping large numbers of properties off the market.

A study by RealtyTrac compared homes held by banks with homes actually listed on local MLS systems. The result? RealtyTrac’s senior vice president Rick Sharga estimates that only 30 percent of bank-owned properties are listed and that 600,000 to 700,000 foreclosed homes nationwide are being held off the market by lenders………

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Deja Vu

June 14th, 2009

I’ve been having a lot of deja vu moments lately between Kingman realtor comments and Las Vegas and Phoenix realtor comments on forums. Hard to believe but this article points that out. The interesting thing about this article is that it appeared in the NY Times and was reprinted in the Seattle Times. Nothing in the Phoenix paper that I can see.

Here is the link with some snippets out of the article:

LINK: Phoenix Housing Bust - Bidding Wars

The New York Times
By DAVID STREITFELD
Published: May 23, 2009

PHOENIX — Every weekday morning, Lou Jarvis drives the sun-baked suburban streets looking for investment gold: a family that will lose its house in a foreclosure auction within a few hours……

Real estate got just about everyone into trouble in Phoenix, and the thinking seems to be that real estate is going to get everyone out.

The low end of the real-estate market here — and in some equally hard-hit places like inland California and coastal Florida — is becoming as wild as anything during the boom……

Absentee buyers, who can be either investors or individuals purchasing a vacation property, bought nearly four of every 10 homes sold in the Phoenix metropolitan area in April, according to the research firm MDA DataQuick. That is up 50 percent since late 2007, and is nearly the same ratio as at the 2005 peak.

Once again, just about everybody seems to be buying as many houses as they can, positive it will make them rich — or at least allow them to recoup some of their losses……

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Long Time, No See

June 10th, 2009

I’ve avoided posting for nearly a year because of nasty emails from Realtors in the area and because of some family issues. I have decided to ignore the psycho attackers and start posting some links again. There is so much going on in the country these days and sometimes ferreting out opposing viewpoints is difficult at best.

I knew the bubble prices wouldn’t last and would come crashing down, but even I didn’t expect the chaos that has come with the crashing home prices.  Having been through unsustainable housing bubbles before, I didn’t realize how the bubble money was holding up the rest of the economy this time.

No-doc loans.. speculators buying 5,10,20 houses with no money down.. housing atms used for toys, expensive cars, vacations, etc.. artificially low interest rates.. people being allowed to purchase homes at ten or more times their annual income.   Then the lenders turning around and selling those bogus loans as AAA to investors around the world and insurance companies insuring those loans.  Most of those things did not exist in previous bubbles.

In previous housing bubbles, prices increased to lofty heights and then crashed back to their fundamental values, without bringing down the entire worlds economy.  People kept saying “this time is different” but I don’t think they meant different in this way.  I don’t feel sorry for anyone who expected the prices to continue to skyrocket and never fall.  All anyone had to do was question the common sense of that happening.  You didn’t have to be a rocket scientist to realize that housing prices were thundering their way to a cliff.

I’m disgusted with the wealth redistribution that seems to be the current administrations idea of how to improve the economy. The new ideas of today are ridiculous in my opinion.  Now responsible people are going to have to pay for the irresponsible once again.  It seems the government will do anything it can to keep the party going. Destroying the dollar, keeping people in houses they could never afford by any means possible, letting people live in houses payment free for months and even years by preventing the lender from foreclosing, forcing lenders to write down mortgage balances so the irresponsible can afford the houses they had no business buying.

Nothing is off the table now it seems.  We must get people back to spending money they don’t have on things they don’t need.  Good plan…spend your way out of debt.

More people should have paid attention to this snl skit from years ago….

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New York Times Article

August 13th, 2008

A few days ago I read a NY Times article regarding Kingman.  I didn’t see the original article until I read comments on the article on a blog.  The comments were not complimentary.  Some of the less negative comments:

“The times is leading people to think that Kingman is a safe place to buy a house? I posted some info in the forum about Mohave County; they have about 20 properties a day going to foreclosure auction. When I drove through in June, the whole place looked like it was on sale. Read the article; 80k new houses?”

“Kingman is in the north west corner of AZ. Lots of CA and NV speculators ran up prices and the developers went nuts. There are so many bulldozed subdivision sites the country looks like an Inca desert drawing.”

I then read the article and researched the writer.  The writer is not a NY Times reporter but a free lance writer from Las Vegas.  I assumed the article was written as a pr piece to draw attention to the dwindling investment market in Mohave.  Being from LV, the writer probably has ties to someone with investments in the area.  The majority of the land purchases during the boom were by Las Vegans.

This is a feed of the original article (the NYT article requires registration, so this is from a NC paper).

http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20080810/ZNYT02/808100
315&title=Developers_Poised_in_Arizona_to_Welcome_the_Sp
illover_of_Las_Vegas__x2019_s_Boom

Today the Miner has jumped on this with their own article. Now, based on a PR piece written by an LV writer (not a NY times reporter as the Miner calls him), we are going to gear up to the “inevitable” invasion.  From the article:

“Salem said while he believes growth is inevitable for Kingman, it is still important for that growth to be planned out accordingly.”People are going to come no matter what,” he said. “We need to be thinking into the future with many things: school, infrastructure, police, fire - all of the city services used to maintain a growth pattern like what we’re used to.”

Salem anticipated that once growth does get underway, especially following he completion of the four-lane Hoover Dam bridge in 2010, he expected it to be greater than the 5 to 6 percent rate it has been, but not so great as the boom experienced earlier this decade.”

 
http://www.kingmandailyminer.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&subsectionID=1&articleID=16958

I see dollar signs and lots of debt in the future for our little town.  The powers that be are counting on an illusion being trumpeted by speculators and developers who gambled and are losing their shirts, based on the current foreclosures.

No one has ever answered my questions regarding this “invasion” of Las Vegans.

..Why will the “bridge” cause hundreds of thousands of people to move here?
..Why will the “bridge” create more traffic through Kingman? Where is this additional traffic going to come from and why?
..Why would Las Vegans travel over 200 miles a day to live in Kingman when there are much closer alternatives in their own state if they choose to not live in Vegas proper?
..Prices have fallen so much in Vegas that larger houses are available for less money than in Kingman, why would they spend more to “commute” to a different state?
..When Las Vegans joke about the master planned community north of them and how they wouldn’t drive the 50 miles to live there, why would they drive 100 miles to live here? That community with a planned 150K homes cannot even get one home built. There is no demand.

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Bank Failure

July 26th, 2008

Feds close First National Bank of Arizona

Stung by problem loans and the real estate slump, Arizona’s largest locally-based bank was closed by regulators Friday.

Scottsdale-based First National Bank becomes the sixth bank failure of 2008 and the first involving an Arizona institution since 2002.

http://www.azcentral.com/12news/news/articles/2008/07/26/20080726biz-FNBA-ON-CP.html

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Housing Bailout Bill

July 24th, 2008

This is “good news” for the realtors and wall street who said the housing market would lock up if this wasn’t passed. FRM and FNM stocks were in free fall.  Happy days are here again for the irresponsible lenders and their stockholders. For the US dollar and the taxpayers, happy days, not so much.

The House of Representatives approved a bailout for Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac on Wednesday. The senate now has to vote, but apparently it’s all but a done deal.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aEUQ4aE8D2HI&refer=news

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There is a video on this page put up by Fed Up USA, regarding the bailout. (I can’t watch the video on Firefox but it works on IE)

http://www.fedupusa.org/

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This has the tape from Senator Bunning blasting the fed about the bill that was passed by the house today. It’s located on the bottom of the page, just click on it to play.

http://financialpetition.org/

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And Senator Bunning’s June speech from the Senate floor regarding the bill.

http://tinyurl.com/6hh2jd

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Cramer also spoke about this bill. He said it was absolutely a necessity. He said it will stop home depreciation and keep the lenders investments worth more. In other words, help his wall street buddies who gambled and are losing.

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Kingman - Golden Valley Property “Bubble”

July 20th, 2008

This is my opinion of the GV/Kingman Bubble. I’m sure I missed some of the reasons the realtors think our bubble was justified, but at the bottom are the ones I hear most along with my opinion on each. The majority are things that are unchanged and are the same now as prior to the bubble.

Kingman was popular with retirees. They liked the low priced homes, the larger lots than Bullhead, the cooler weather than the river and the small town feeling. A lot of retirees moved here from the mid-west where prices were comparable and not out of their reach.

Now many who purchased prior to the bubble are having trouble paying their increasing property taxes based on all the speculation shooting their property “values” up by leaps and bounds. Especially with huge increases in utilities, gas and food and the decrease in any interest they may earn or the downward trend of any stocks they own.

Golden Valley was a place where people who couldn’t afford to live in Bullhead moved or people who wanted an acre or more of land to build on moved. Many worked in Laughlin and GV was a reasonable commute with much lower prices. They could buy property for a few thousand dollars and put an older trailer on it and live inexpensively. Or they could buy the same inexpensive acreage and build a nice house and not have to live in the city. They were willing to give up the benefits of living in Bullhead or Kingman for the acreage and/or the low costs. The pluses far out weighed the inconveniences and lack of infrastructure.

That is primarily what drove the increasing population of Golden Valley up to 2005, inexpensive living on acreage.

Then a builder decided that hundreds of thousands of people were chomping at the bit to move to Golden Valley and Kingman and live on 2000′-6000′ lots in cookie cutter houses with “rules” to keep the riff-raff out. He thought GV/Kingman would be a perfect bedroom community for LV. He borrowed millions and millions of dollars and started buying up thousands of acres in both Kingman and GV.

Then other speculators got wind of the plans and jumped in. They started saying that Golden Valley was the new Palm Springs (not sure what’s wrong with the old one, but whatever). They also borrowed millions of dollars from “no-rules” lenders or “willing to carry back paper” sellers and purchased the left over land and then moved on to every house available.

According to those “in the know”, hundreds of thousands of rich baby boomers from across the country were practically knocking down others to get their spot in Utopia (Golden Valley) or if not there, then Kingman. Kingman’s population was going to shoot up to as much as 1.5 million according to an article in the local paper and become the 3rd largest metropolitan area in the state.

Houses jumped 100% or more, mostly between 2004 & 2005. Land prices went up 2000% in GV in some cases and in all cases they went up many multiples of the early 2000’s prices.

Unfortunately the people buying the land and the houses were not, in most cases, the rich baby boomers. They were speculators and/or flippers. Most from out of state and many buying 5-10 houses each.

Why not, people were seeing houses sold and then resold weeks later for 100k profits. People were doubling, tripling and quadrupling their money by holding land only a couple of months or less. Lenders didn’t care whether you could pay them back or not. No credit, no money, no job, no problem was common in the lender ads at the time. All the old lending rules were thrown out the window as being “old fashioned”.

TV commercials and spokesman on national news shows were urging people to liberate the “free” equity in their homes. Take it out and use it for all the things you want and can’t afford. It’s your money, put it to use. Paying off your home was an extremely bad investment strategy, according to “experts” quoted in the media. You should never leave that “free” equity in your home.

Never once did I hear anyone say that this “free” money was not really “free”. It came with a high price. It was not your money, it was never your money. People were flocking to lenders to get their free money. It was a loan, just like putting the toys on a credit card. A loan that had to be paid back and unlike credit cards they could take your house if you didn’t pay them back.

People borrowed on their house to “pay off” credit cards, buy toys, take vacations, even pay for everyday living expenses. After all it was their money. Many said they were using their equity to “pay off” their debts. Huh?? For the math challenged, that is only exchanging one debt for another, more dangerous, kind of debt. Not “paying off” your debt. Oops, so much for “free” money.

A local realtor made a statement a few months ago that people should get all the equity out of their home that they could, so that they could “invest” in the deals that were showing up. Call me crazy, but borrowing money from your home to “invest” in the real estate market is less than smart.

Did anyone question this? Did anyone say what possible reason could these properties increase in value so quickly when nothing fundamental had changed at all? Did everyone’s salary go up a 100% or more? Did several big employers move here, paying 100k salaries to all? Did we suddenly move to a location closer to a big city? Did the national news media announce that Kingman/GV was the place everyone should move?

So now here we are. There was absolutely no fundamental reason for the price increases. Not here, and not in the rest of the country that experienced this “bubble”.

Now the prices have started falling and will no doubt continue to fall back to where they make sense for the salaries of the local population. Do the real estate professions or speculators accept this? No, they blame RAID(Residents Against Irresponsible Growth), a local reporter, the local newspaper, seniors, retirees, voters and anyone who dares question them.

They still think the increases were justified. They have lots of reasons…

1…A bypass over the Hoover Dam is just a couple of years away.

I think this is one of the weakest reasons of all. The bypass will allow truck traffic, which is now restricted. It does not shorten the miles to LV just makes the crossing of the actual river a little faster. LV will still be over a 100 miles away. And you will have the increased traffic because of the 18 wheelers.

2…Las Vegas and California are too expensive.

Obviously they haven’t paid attention to the falling home prices and land prices in both Cali and LV, we’re aready more expensive than many areas of Cali on a per square foot basis. And no matter what anyone says, our prices should not be compared to large metropolitan areas.

3…LV workers will live here because they can get more for their money.

Ok, even if this was true and I don’t think it is anymore, I fail to see the logic in this. Why would someone drive three hours or more each day to and from a job? Even ignoring the huge gas expense, that’s 3 hours a day out of your life on the road.

Why would someone work in Nevada (income tax free) and live in Arizona (income tax to pay)? Why would someone work in LV and then on the weekends, when they have time to shop and play, choose to do it in Kingman/GV instead of the entertainment capital of Nevada?

4…Hundreds of thousands of baby boomers are coming.

This is almost laughable, thousands of other small towns across the country are also saying this. Most retirees I know either stayed in their town when they retired or moved to a state where their children lived. Those who retired to Florida and/or Arizona usually did it because of the low cost of living. Without that, many retirees are moving out of those states and/or not moving in. Unless baby boomers are a new breed, I doubt they are all going to set out and move to a new state when they retire. And if they do, it will still not increase the houses needed. Most will sell in one place and buy in another. The increased inventory when they start selling will not make prices go up.


5…Businesses will relocate here from California because of the low prices and low taxes.

This is a myth perpetuated by retelling. If realtors and speculators would check the actual numbers they would find the truth. California commercial prices do not bubble like residential does. Commercial prices here bubbled even more than residential. Land and commercial rentals here are higher than many areas in California.

We have imposed huge impact and building permit fees as if we were a big city. Commercial property taxes here are ridiculously high compared to California and there is no protection against them doubling or more year after year as there is in California. I don’t know what workers comp rates are in Arizona but I would guess they are lower than Cali. That is a cost that is out of control in Cali and could likely be the main thing cheaper here. Businesses move for profit. If the cost of doing business continues to climb in Arizona, businesses will bypass us for greener pastures. Phoenix is already losing businesses because of escalating taxes.

6…Kingman has both the 40 and 93 freeways and will attract companies based on this prime location.

Once again, did Kingman move? As far as I know we’ve had the 40 running through Kingman for as long as the 40 has existed. We were always a prime location for businesses who need the 40 for transport to and from Cali. In fact, we were probably a much more prime location in the past before the land prices escalated. Higher land prices will decrease the interested businesses not increase them. Businesses cannot afford to have their property values and corresponding taxes increase every year. That is not a plus.

7…We have perfect weather.

Although I like the weather here, a lot of people feel it is too hot in the summer and too cold in the winter. And more importantly, the weather hasn’t changed. We had the same weather when our home and land prices were cheaper. Prices don’t go to the moon over night because of weather.

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Bank Failures - IndyMac Seized

July 12th, 2008

I said months ago that there would be be bank failures from this fiasco. If anyone has any money, they need to be sure it is in an insured account and this includes retirement accounts. This is the biggest so far, but others are on the same banana peel. Wachovia and Wamu are two other large banks that are in danger.

http://tinyurl.com/5s57cp

Latest victim of mortgage crisis, IndyMac taken over

By Jonathan Burton & John Letzing, MarketWatch
Last update: 8:31 p.m. EDT July 11, 2008
Comments: 438

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch)– IndyMac Bancorp Inc. became the biggest casualty of the subprime mortgage crisis on Friday, as federal regulators shut down the troubled Pasadena, Calif.-based savings bank in one of the largest U.S. bank failures ever.

The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. said in a statement it will take over operations of IndyMac
, which will open for business on Monday as IndyMac Federal Bank. The thrift had total assets of $32.01 billion as of March 31.

http://tinyurl.com/5omaba

Regulators seize IndyMac Bank
Updated 55m ago | Comments113 | Recommend16

LOS ANGELES (AP)— IndyMac Bank’s assets were seized by federal regulators on Friday after the mortgage lender succumbed to the pressures of tighter credit, tumbling home prices and rising foreclosures.

The bank is the largest regulated thrift to fail and the second largest financial institution to close in U.S. history, regulators said.
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….And the importance of being sure you are covered……………………

“Some 10,000 depositors had funds in excess of the insured limit, for a total of $1 billion in potentially uninsured funds, the FDIC said.”

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